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hashatalin

Kemence diki mas i dikoi tous?????

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Mar 18 06 7:28 PM

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Oi tourkoi upostirzoun oti i Kemence eina dikia tous kai emeis oti einai diko mas kai oi Lazoi oti einai diko tous. exete stoixeia na upostiriksete oti i kemence einai diko mas??????????

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viBe

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Mar 21 06 2:43 PM

Kali erotisi. Then eimai sigouros, alla ap'oti vlepo apo to website
www.kemence.com, h Pontiaki lyra einai Romeiki, thilathi
Elliniki.

Opos tha thiavasis sto keimeno afto, h Pontiaki lyra onomazete
Rum Kemence. Pistevo h selitha afti einai grammeni apo Tourko.

Rum Kemence

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Kemenche is a persian word which derived from the word keman(=bow,
curve)" and suffix -che (gives "small" meaning) means "little instrument played by
bow".
In central Asia there are many instruments that can be the origin of
kemenche. Studies show that even there is some different names like KIYAK and
IKLIG the name of instrument paleyed by a bow is generally KEMENECHE among
the Mongol and Turk tribes in central and far asia.

In Turkey, there are different instruments called as kemenche. From these
varieties, the Blacksea Kemenche and the Türkmen Kemenche (Southeastern
Kemenche) are used in folk music. The Blacksea Kemenche has a narrower body
and its shape is more rectangular (bottle sahaped). The instrument used in
Turkish Classical Music is called as Classical Kemenche which has a wider and
rounder body (pear shaped). All kemenches are played with a bow. Unlike a
classical kemenche player, however, the Blacksea kemenche player plays while
standing. On some parts on asia and europe yu can see some instruments very
similar to Turkish classical kemenches with different names like LYRA in Greece,
GADULGA in Bulgaria, REBAB in some Arabic countries. On the other hand also
you can find similar instrumets like Turkmen kemenche in Iran, Azerbaijan and
Armenia. But It is interesting that either in asia or in the other parts of the world
you can not find an instrument which has similar shape with Blacksea kemenche.
So we can say that It only belongs to Blacksea region, Blacksea people, and
everybody originally comes from this part of Anatolia

Source: http://www.kemence.com/eng/tarih.htm

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pontian69

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Mar 22 06 7:12 AM

I Simerini Pontiaki Lyra exi enan pio gliko Ixo apo afta tis Mavris Thallasas!!!

E Mavron Patridan, Sa rashias p'egenethe,
ke sa homatas pou tranin ke thafkete,
Ndo n'aftai to Paradison?
- F.Ktenidis

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8339470

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Mar 24 06 8:23 AM

Ντο λέεις;
Εμένα μ'αρέσει πάρα πολύ η παλιά λύρα... Αλλά και η σημερινή, βέβαια

Η παλιά είναι λίγο πιο... πως να το πούμε... άγρια. Και αυτό ακριβώς μ'αρέσει

Ζει ο Πόντον!

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pontian69

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Mar 24 06 10:34 AM

E Mavron Patridan, Sa rashias p'egenethe,
ke sa homatas pou tranin ke thafkete,
Ndo n'aftai to Paradison?
- F.Ktenidis

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Peri

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Mar 24 06 9:27 PM

Agaphth filh mou Olga,

kata th gnwmh mou panta, h pontiakh lyra pistevw pos exei ekselix8ei apo to kalo sto kalytero....Kai oi organopaixtes, kai oi kataskeuastes ths lyras exoun ftasei se kala epipeda. Wstoso ti ennoeis oti sou aresei to palio akousma?? (exeis mhpws kana arxeio na mou steileis na katalavo?

Καρδία ντ' έκοψες το μούτ, και -ν- άλλο κι αναμένεις, αδα σο χαλ ντ' εγκάνεσε σίναν θα αραεύεις?

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hashatalin

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Mar 25 06 6:10 PM

steile kai emena

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pontios1975

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Mar 26 06 1:48 AM

I kemence distixos katagogi tu ine tourkiki etsi diabasa pantos sta tourkika tragudia me ta pontiaka exi diafora allios pezoun an kano la8os pite mou

Sta xena ime Pontios kai stin ellada xenos ΚΑΖΑΝΤΣΙΔΗΣ

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pontian69

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Mar 27 06 1:39 PM

File Pontios1975 (ego pa egenetha to '75) Eftas Lathos me tato..

I leksi Kemence Ine Tourkikia to musico organo omos Oxi, Tourkiko ine ta Sazia (bouzouki) pio Poli... Tin sosti Alithia then tin kseri kanis omos then ine fili pou dimiourgise enxorda san tin lyra (me doksari).....

Pio pola, Ndaouli ke Zourna pou ine Panarxea Musika Organa!!!

http://www.pontian.info/MUSIC/lyra.htm

Stephanos

E Mavron Patridan, Sa rashias p'egenethe,
ke sa homatas pou tranin ke thafkete,
Ndo n'aftai to Paradison?
- F.Ktenidis

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pontios1975

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Apr 22 06 10:15 PM

diladi stefane oposMallonoun apo pou katagete to tabli? o turkos lei dikomas ine o ellinas oxi dikomas ...telika ine persiko pexnidi

telospanton i lyra en PONTIAKON ORGANON kias lene i turks oti thelune xarap kexune

Sta xena ime Pontios kai stin ellada xenos ΚΑΖΑΝΤΣΙΔΗΣ

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hashatalin

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Apr 24 06 2:25 AM

Kai esy p to kserei pontie1975

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pontios1975

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Apr 25 06 3:04 AM

pio na ixero hashatalin ?esi den ise o dionisis as sin kipron?

Sta xena ime Pontios kai stin ellada xenos ΚΑΖΑΝΤΣΙΔΗΣ

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hashatalin

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Apr 25 06 6:25 AM

Nai egw eimai. p to kserei oti i Lira pou pezoumai einai pontiaki??????????????

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pontios1975

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Apr 26 06 6:31 AM

Nto les nepe an ken romeikon nto en?rota ton tätäs ainos xeriexete xeretismata apo tin xristinan kai petro kurtidi

Sta xena ime Pontios kai stin ellada xenos ΚΑΖΑΝΤΣΙΔΗΣ

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mavrorimi

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May 4 06 11:33 PM

QUOTE (pontios1975 @ April 26, 2006 06:31 am)

Nto les nepe an ken romeikon nto en?rota ton tätäs ainos xeriexete xeretismata apo tin xristinan kai petro kurtidi

gasas patriotes afta togin to lete... i kemence to gavali to taouli i zourna ine pontiaka organa... kami ama kamia sxesi mata turkika organa.... kitak ste apo tin ali apopsi ektos apo ti mavri thalasa den pezete pou thena i kemence ine i mitriki tou patrida o pontos... apo ki epek tathike son planiti...tora ite i ponti to pezoun ite i tourki den exi simasia... omos akomi son ponto pezete ke go ime apoki...

ΑΝ ΑΠΟΘΑΝΩ ΣΟ ΤΑΦΙΜ ΠΕΙΣΤΕ ΟΛΙΓΟΝ ΤΟΠΟ ΒΑΛΤΕ ΑΠΕΣ ΤΗΝ ΚΕΜΕΝΤΖΕΜ Κ ΕΝΑ ΠΟΥΚΑΛ ΡΑΚΟΠΟΝ..

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pontian69

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May 5 06 10:35 AM

Akrivos Afto Leme...

Kemence Chiala Chiala, an ki Pez Kala Kala.....

Steph

E Mavron Patridan, Sa rashias p'egenethe,
ke sa homatas pou tranin ke thafkete,
Ndo n'aftai to Paradison?
- F.Ktenidis

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Peri

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May 11 06 11:30 PM

H KEMENTZE HTAN, EINAI, KAI 8A EINAI PONTIAKH.....K O,TI YPOSTHRIZOUN OI TOYRKOI EINAI MPOYRDES, KA8WS MIA ZOH STHN ISTORIA DEN EIXAN KATI DIKO TOYS ALLA OLA KLEMENA.....K H MOUSIKH TWN TOYRKWN EINAI KLEMENH APO TOYS ARAVES

Καρδία ντ' έκοψες το μούτ, και -ν- άλλο κι αναμένεις, αδα σο χαλ ντ' εγκάνεσε σίναν θα αραεύεις?

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hashatalin

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Jun 3 06 7:18 AM

nomizw oti i kemence einai dikia tous.

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pontian69

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Jun 3 06 8:06 AM

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MPOYRDES

E Mavron Patridan, Sa rashias p'egenethe,
ke sa homatas pou tranin ke thafkete,
Ndo n'aftai to Paradison?
- F.Ktenidis

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Peri

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Jun 3 06 10:29 PM

file hashatalin
ETSI POS PAME ME TH TOURKS 8A POUNE POS OTI YPARXEI STHN ELLADA EINAI TOYRKIKO.....MHPOS EINAI KAI O KOSMOS TOURKIKOS???

OLOI OI LAOI EXOYN PROSFEREI KATI STHN PAGKOSMIA ISTORIA.....KATA THN APOPSH MOY KAI OI TOYRKOI PROSEFERAN.................GENOKTONIES.....ENAS LAOS O OPOIOS KOITAEI ME MISOS OLOYS TOYS OIPOLOIPOUS LAOYS...

EIXAN PROVLHMA ME TOYS ARMENIOYS??? TOYS KSERIZOSAN
EIXAN PROVLHMA ME TOYS PONTIOYS???? MAS KSERIZOSAN...
EXOYN AN TO KSERETE KAI PROVLHMA ME TOYS KOYRDOYS....

PROSFATA EGINE MAXH KAI GIA TON MPAKLAVA....KAI TI ALLO NA PERIMENOYME??? OI TOYRKOI YPOSTIRHKSAN(OPOS PANTA) OTI O MPAKLAVAS EINAI TOYRKIKHS KATAGWGHS....DEN EIMAI SIGOYROS APO POU EINAI ALLA AYTH TH STIGMH DEN EXEI SHMASIA....

OTI SYMFEREI TOYS TOYRKOYS, TO KANOYN DIKO TOY...OTI DEN TOYS SYMFEREI...DEN EINAI DIKO TOYS....

H KEMENTZE (H ALLIWS PONTIAKH LYRA) EINAI PONTIAKH KAI AS VGOYN OI TOYRKOI NA POYN OTI EINAI DIKIA TOYS.. .

PONTOS EN ASTRON FWTEINON

Καρδία ντ' έκοψες το μούτ, και -ν- άλλο κι αναμένεις, αδα σο χαλ ντ' εγκάνεσε σίναν θα αραεύεις?